psychologists, social workers, and now, where you might have had a school counselor per school, maybe dealing with two or 300, some of the ratios now for school psychologists, for example, is one to 1,000. you can't possibly provide the kind of support for students. plus, then, you also have counsellors who as opposed to providing critical support services are spending large majorities of their time coordinating tests other than providing services students need. >> if a question is, if a gun, an armed teacher in every classroom is not the answer what is? we are talking with ramona oliver, the senior director of communications for the national education association. you parents as well have some ideas about this, i am sure. give us a call at 866-55-press, the full court press friday morning. >> this is "the bill press show" show."